After demobilisation rejoined the civilian bands and played with Frank Crowley, Alf Tibbs, Bob Wybrow, Russ Mills, Scotty McLachlan, and Jack Evans. In the late 1940s, I joined the CFPL Studio Band, which was formed and conducted by Neil McKay. CFPL station manager was Don Wright and the band was known as the CFPL All-Stars. This band eventually became the “Neil McKay London All Stars” playing at the London Arena and doing a weekly CBC network show on Saturday nights with Gayle Gordon and Ginnie Mitchell supplying the vocals. I also played many other CBC radio broadcasts, including the Don Harding (Earl Plunket) Show and the weekly Silverwood sponsored show.

Neil left London in 1953 to get his Doctorate of Music degree at the Eastman School of music, and at Neil's request I took over the band and played two more winters at the Arena and during the summer at Wonderland Gardens. It was at this point that big bands were being used less frequently and it became difficult to keep them busy, but there were still lots of opportunity at the bar scene. As a result, I formed a smaller nine-piece band and played many functions for university dances and local dance halls in Goderich, Grand Bend, Ipperwash, Sarnia, Chatham, Rondeau, Port Stanley, Port Dover, Brantford, Guelph and Stratford etc.

In the late 1950s, I formed a small seven-piece group to do a CFPL TV show called the “Panorama House Party”, featuring the vocals of Emma Dobronyi and Jack Levy with occasional outside guests, for example, Tommy Hunter.

My playing days were put on hold until I joined the Moonlighters Band in the late 90s under Neil Harrington, with whom I played for three or four years. I am now happily retired and still occasionally play trumpet but not with any of the organised bands.